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  • #1447
    bts.av
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    Hi everybody…

    I’m a total noob, just discovered V-Control 2 hours ago… I read the manual, but I can’t configure how to connect the Bonsai Drive to V-Control ?

    I have a USB <> RS-232 adapter… but the Bonsai Drive is working in RS-422, right ??

    or is it possible using Midi connectors ?

    Thanks for your help and sorry if my question seems dumb….

    #1448
    bts.av
    Participant

    damn.. didn’t mean “I can’t configure” but “I can’t figure” … -___-‘

    #1449
    sspiegl
    Participant

    There are no dumb questions, only dumb answers 😉

    The bonsaiDrive can only be remote controlled by rs422. You need an rs232 to rs422 converter or an USB to rs422 adapter.

    Sebastian

    #1450
    bts.av
    Participant

    OK. Thanks for reply !!! (;

    I got a USB <> Mini Din 9 serial , from Keyspan , the USA-28X, and a cable MiniDin 9 > Sub-d 9 Rs422… basically, it was used to control a Beta or DVCam (or else) using RS-422 on an old ProTools 6 TDM workstation…

    I think it can do the trick…

    in fact, I got my bonsai drive without the original remote controller… and so, I can configure it properly… can I do that with V-Control ? (access the menu, format the disk, change the settings… these things I can’t do on a BVE…)

    #1451
    sspiegl
    Participant

    The bonsaiDrive communication protocol is available in V-Control but the Keyspan USA-28x is a MAC only adapter! (The USA-19HS is the same adapter but for Windows). V-Control runs on both systems, so if you get the adapter/driver running on a recent Mac you are good to go.

    #1453
    Dierk
    Participant

    You can use the Bonsai Drive with a RS232 Interface, but you need a custom made control cable.

    The Device Interface in V-Control (where you select the commands) has a “?” button. if you click this, a window with additional information pops up, in case of the Bonsai this one:

    RS232/422 Interface Settings

    Baudrate : 38400
    DataBits : 8
    Parity : o
    StopBits : 1

    The Commands bk_Play, bk_play_rev, bk_ninus, bk_plus, bk_stop, bk_loc1, bk_lok2, bk_menu and bk_release emulate a keypress on the key buttons of the Bonsai Drive. To perform a keypress, you have zu send a command (i.e. bk_play) followed by a bk_release.

    IMPORTANT: These devices using RS422 commports that are different from RS232. If a RS422 interface is installed in the system, use the normal remote cable for betacam machines (9-pin 1:1 connected). If not, a special adaptor cable is needed which is shown here:

    RS232 9-pol. RS422 9-pol.

    2————–2
    3————–8
    5————–1
    6————–3

    Note: which this adaptor the max. cable length is approx. 6 m.

    There is a bug in the help concerning RS422 interfaces. There you also need a customized cable, but different from the one described for RS232.

    The tweak with the RS232 port to control RS422 devices does not work for every RS422 device. My experience is that it works for most devices, but not for DVS Pronto 2, 3 and 4, but works with Probto 1, Bonsai, Betacam VTR’s, Doremi and Grass Valley Turbo Drives.

    • This reply was modified 3 years, 6 months ago by Dierk Walter.
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    #1458
    bts.av
    Participant

    Hi…

    thanks both for your time…!

    I got the keyspan USA-28X on my mac and it’s seen (finding a driver for 10.11 wasn’t easy, but it’s done)… after a moment, I get how to make it seen by V-Control (configure/channels, then ask to refresh while in serial settings)

    but I got no idea which settings I am supposed to send ??

    I’ve tried the settings
    Baudrate : 38400
    DataBits : 8
    Parity : o
    StopBits : 1

    then added the 28Xtest as channel to my Bonsai Drive_1 device, , then I selected bk_play, Run CMD then bk_release, RUN CMD… but no result at all

    What do I do wrong ?

    #1459
    Dierk
    Participant

    Bonsai in Remote Mode?
    How is your cable? Can you show me how the pins are connected?

    #1460
    bts.av
    Participant

    woops, reply to myself… I’ve forgot to save the baud change… it was 9800 ..

    ok, another pb now: I’ve sent the bk_play cmd. the bonsai drive start to browse thru all menus like crazy… so, I sent the bk_release right after that…. but nothing change ? the bonsai drive keep browsing thru menus…??

    I can make it play, stop, etc.. al transsport fonctions are fine.

    #1461
    Dierk
    Participant

    This shows the RS422 pinout with a VSCom Pro interface
    Master (female VSCom)—- Slave (male)
    1 Tx-(A)———————8 Rx-(A)
    2 Tx+(B)———————3 Rx+(B)
    3 Rx+(B)———————7 Tx+(B)
    4 Rx-(A)———————2 Tx-(A)
    5 GND————————1 GND

    #1462
    bts.av
    Participant

    I unplugged the RS-422 cable from the bonsai drive, it keeps running thru menus… I had to electrically unplug it.

    I re-plug and tried another cmd: bk_menu … it does work but it seems it’s the same: it keeps runnin… and so, I can’t send any other bk_ commands…

    I’ve noticed that every cmd got the ACK msg… but the bk_release got a timeout msg….

    #1463
    bts.av
    Participant

    As requested, the cable pinout

    SubD9 for Mac Rs-422″ />

    #1464
    bts.av
    Participant

    The img doesn’t seems to work, so I attached the picture here…

    #1467
    Dierk
    Participant

    I recheck the driver and found a bug.
    In the bk_release command replace

    ScriptResult = chr(34)+chr(255)+chr(0)+chr(0)+chr(33)

    with

    ScriptResult = chr(34)+chrb(255)+chr(0)+chr(0)+chr(33)

    #1468
    bts.av
    Participant

    Hi…

    I’m out for the next two weeks (work, work… you know how it is..)

    but I’ll sure try asap !!! and, of course, will keep you posted.

    thanks again for your time and kindness.

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